Thursday, 22 September 2011
Kirchner surname
I have just made a discovery - at some point in time - perhaps when the Kirchners fled Germany, they changed their name by dropping the VON in front of Kirchner. So we were actually Von Kirchner! What an interesting revelation!
SWIFT COAT OF ARMS
The motto of the Swift Coat of Arms is: Festina Lente
Translated from Latin it means: make haste slowly or hurry slowly which is quite funny as swift means quick or fast. What the motto actually means is: Do things in the proper way instead of hurriedly or to think first before jumping in without thinking something through! I'd say this is a very wise motto! Congratulations to my forefather who came up with this oxymoron as a motto!!!
Translated from Latin it means: make haste slowly or hurry slowly which is quite funny as swift means quick or fast. What the motto actually means is: Do things in the proper way instead of hurriedly or to think first before jumping in without thinking something through! I'd say this is a very wise motto! Congratulations to my forefather who came up with this oxymoron as a motto!!!
RIGHT MARGIN PROBLEMS
As I am new at this, perhaps someone can tell me why the right margin has been cut off resulting in some dates not showing?
Wednesday, 21 September 2011
SWIFT & KIRCHNER RESEARCH
It seems the most of the dates have been cut off. I can e-mail the documents to anyone who is interested in this research.
SWIFT AND KIRCHNER RESEARCH
To start of I would like to research both sides of my dad, Thomas Edwin Swift's family and his mother, Maria Elizabeth (aka Isabella) Kirchner's family. I have traced both great grandfathers to where they entered South Africa,. However now I am stuck. I have already done a huge amount of research and sort of written down notes and stories told to me by various family members.
Here is my great grandfather's Family Tree followed by my Grandfather's Family Tree:
Alice (3 daughters) 1932
Maria Elizabeth (Miemie) (m Joubert) 9/4/1919
Nancy (single) 15/3/1974
I hope someone out there will be able to help me with my research - more in particular on which ships did my 2 great grandfathers come and from exactly where did they come?
Here is my great grandfather's Family Tree followed by my Grandfather's Family Tree:
MY GRANDFATHER’S FAMILY TREE
Compiled by Juli Kürchner Robertson (born Swift)
BIRTH/DEATH DATE
My Great Grandfather:
WILLIAM EDMUND SWIFT 1839 - ±1900
Married 27/12/64
My Great Grandmother
Anna Margaretha Kirchner (christened 27/9/1846 ) 4/9/1846 - ±1900
CHILDREN:
THOMAS EDWIN SWIFT 29/5/1868 – 8/10/1932
(m * Cornelia Maria Lourens) ?? - 1900
(and then Cecilia Petronella Cronje) 10/8/1876 – 9/4/1949
GUILLAUME JOHANNES KIRCHNER SWIFT (My Grandfather) 13/9/1871 – ±1950
(m Maria Elizabeth Kirchner 29/4/1876 – ±1948
Anna Maria Margareta Swift 28/7/1873
(m Pieter Jozef Marius (Marcus) Ellis 29/6/1897 Ladismith)
WILHELM JACOBUS SWIFT 4/12/1875 - ±1930/40
Jacomina Johanna Swift (m George Philippus Bredenhan)
*** THOMAS EDWIN SWIFT AND CECILIA PETRONELLA = MY DAD’S GODPARENTS***
Thomas Edwin’s Children:
* Cornelia Maria “Colly” Swift (m Haasbroek) 2/2/1895 - ?
(Children: Anna Zweig
* (First wife’s child)
William James (Willie) Swift (Wife: Maria) 26/11/1903 – Mar 1966
Children: Marius Christo Swift (m Alta Hugo) 26/9/1933
(Children: Jimmy Swift m Marion Douglas –
- Children: Stephanie Swift 21/02/1986
Hugo Swift m Elizabeth v Rensburg
Marius Swift,
Alta Wessels)
Cecilia Jane “Cecily” 11/08/1936 – 20/04/1957
Wilna Swift (m George Bekker) 24/08/1939
(Children, Maryke Swift, Marieken, Melissa)
Theunis Hanekom Swift (m Lydia Ehlers) 26/05/1944
(Children: Wayne Swift, Charlene Swift)
Edwin “Eddie” Thomas Swift
(m Marlene Visser) 31/05/1945 – 13/02/2003
(Children: Monja, Shawn, Luan – died 19/05/2004 )
Laurette Swift (m Dries Erasmus and then
John Jacobsen) 07/02/1947
(Children: Andre Erasmus, Mariska Erasmus, Lauren Erasmus)
(Children: Jolani Jacobsen)
William “Willie” James Swift (m Louise ?) 22/07/1948
(Children: William James Swift, Wilmary Swift)
Matthys Johannes Swift (m Alice ?) 1903/5 – 1958/60
Children: Thomas James (wife: Marietjie Potgieter) 1936 – Dec 1981
(Children: Margaretha Aletta 1959; Ronel Elizabeth 1960; Matthys Johannes 8/7/1961; Thomas James 1963)
Jack (2nd Wife: Annette) 27/12/1942
(Children: James; Catherine; Elisna)
Martina Magdalena “Mattie” (m Piet Lewis) 19/6/1907 – 10/9/1985
Thomas Edwin Swift (m Elise ? - divorced) (b Ladismith 3/10/1909 ) 21/08/1909
Children: Elise Swift
Cecilia Swift
Anna Maria Margaretha Swift (married Japie Le Roux) 3/11/1911
Children: JP (Japie) le Roux 1934
Engelbert Lens le Roux 1935
Thomas Edwin Swift le Roux 1936
Jacob Pieter Jordaan le Roux 1937
Cecil Cronjé le Roux 1938
Anna Johanna le Roux
Cecilia Petronella le Roux
Abraham Joshua le Roux
Cecilia Petronella “Poppie” (m Danie le Roux) ??
Petrus Johannes “Pietie” Swift (no children) 16/8/1915 – 26/3/1932
Anna Maria Margareta Swift’s Children:
Thomas Ellis about 1910/1915
Guillaume Johannes Kirchner Swift’s Children:
Susanna Elizabeth (m Jacobus Johannes Jordaan 11/11/1898 – 20/11/1979
and then Philippus Johannes “Flip” Veldtsman)
Anna Magrieta/Margareta (m Andries Petrus de Villiers) 12/01/1902 – 18/02/1978
Willie (?William?) Jacobus/Gideon (m Hendrieka Sarah Hawkins) 18/6/1904 - ± 1958/60
Johannes Aloisius (Never married – no children) 10/11/1906 – 15/3/1984
Killian Johannes/John (m Suzie de Bod) 15/10/1909 - March 1969
Thomas Edwin Swift (m Saraii Dorothy Baines born Mallinson and
later Anna Elizabeth Petersen formerly Retief born Victor) 24/12/1913 – 17/04/1979
Twins: {James (m Maria Magdalena (Miemie) Janse van Rensburg) 20/4/1917 – 10/12/1967
{Maria Elizabeth (Miemie) 20/4/1917 - ± 1996
(m Andreas Albert Hansen 1/1/1936) 18/3/1896
***SEE REST OF SWIFT FAMILY TREE****
Wilhelm (William) Jacobus Swift’s Children:
William Edward (Eduard) (b Ladismith 15/12/1899 ) 1/5/1899
Johanna Maria (b Ladismith 28/11/1902 ) 1/9/1902
(My grandpa and grandma were witnesses at christening)
Thomas Edward (Eduard) (b Ladismith 25/12/1906 ) 8/11/1906
SWIFT FAMILY HISTORY
Compiled by Juli Kürchner Robertson (born Swift)
BIRTH/DEATH DATE
Grandfather: GUILLAUM JOHANNES KIRCHNER SWIFT 30/9/1871 – about 1950
Baptised: 3/12/1871 Ladismith
(There are also many variations in spelling – GUILLAUME is French for WILLIAM!!
Grandmother: MARIA ELIZABETH KIRCHNER 29/4/1876 – 1947
(It seems she was baptized on 29/1/1877 in Ladismith as MARIA ISABELLA KIRCHNER)
Date of Marriage: 22 April 1897
My father’s Siblings:
Susanna Elizabeth (m Jacobus Johannes Jordaan 11/11/1898 – 20/11/1979
and in 1960 Philippus Johannes “Flip” Veldtsman)
Anna Magrieta/Margareta (m Andries Petrus de Villiers) 12/01/1902 – 18/02/1978
Willie (?William?) Jacobus/Gideon (m Hendrieka Sarah Hawkins) 18/6/1904 - ± 1958/60
Johannes Aloisius (Never married – no children) 10/11/1906 – 15/3/1984
Killian Johannes/John (m Suzie de Bod) 15/10/1909 - March 1969
My dad: Thomas Edwin Swift (m Saraii Dorothy Baines born Mallinson and
later Anna Elizabeth Petersen formerly Retief born Victor) 24/12/1913 – 17/04/1979
Twins: {James (m Maria Magdalena (Miemie) Janse van Rensburg) 20/4/1917 – 10/12/1967
{Maria Elizabeth (Miemie) 20/4/1917 - ± 1996
(m Andreas Albert Hansen 1/1/1936 ) 18/3/1896
Susanna’s children:
Children: Pieter Joubert (m Antoinette) ± 1943
Louis Johannes Jordaan ± 1923
Susanna (Suzie) Elizabeth Jordaan (m Isaac le Grange d 1979)
(2nd m Niemand) 17/6/1933
Children: Josef Michiel le Grange 1951
Jacobus Johannes le Grange 1953
Isaac Barthlomeus le Grange 1955
Killian Johannes le Grange 1959
Susanna Aletta le Grange (m Frederick Venter) 2/5/1965
Peter Johannes Niemand 1971 – 1995
Lente Niemand (m Andrew Robert Harris) 1973
Christina (Stienie) Johanna (m 1st du Bois, 2ndSouthey) 26/8/1928
Children: Antoinette (m van Rooyen) 27/4/1955
Chris du Bois 1/11/58 – 2000
Pierre du Bois
Twins: Elizabeth (m Janse v Rensburg)
Arthur du Bois
Jean du Bois
Killian Johannes Deceased
Jakobus Jordaan
Rosina (Rosie) Johanna Magharetha 13/8/1939
(m Hermanus Stephanus “Faan” Engelbrecht – 3/2/1967 ) (No children)
Anna Jordaan (m van der Poel - 1962) 7/9/1944
Children: Susanna (Sanette) Elizabeth vd Poel 20/7/1963
Jacobus Johannes (Johan) vd Poel 22/12/1967
Anna Francina 10/10/1970
Heinrich 16/10/1978
Anna’s children:
Maria Elizabeth (Bessie) (m Harry Kaden) (Deceased)
Children: Patricia (m Visser) ± 1949
Michael Kaden ± 1953
Hendrik (Hennie) Pieter Johan de Villiers 25/2/1927 – Deceased
(m Sophia Elizabeth Malherbe - 11/12/1956) 19/11/1933 - Deceased
Children: Anita Elizabeth (m Carlos Gysbertus Villavicencio 13/11/1976) 27/9/1957
(No children)
Ivan Pieter de Villiers (m 2nd xSusarah Volschenk ± 1986) 11/11/1958
Children: Adrie Marie (1st marriage) ±1981
John Malherbe de Villiers (m Lizette de Villiers now divorced) 22/6/1960
Children: Anton de Villiers
Rudolph Boudewijn de Villiers 22/10/1965
Hendrik (Hennie) Pieter Johan de Villiers 18/9/1966
Children: Carissa ± 1995
Jean Pierre ± 1998
Deborah Johanna Jakoba (Debbie) (married: Ralph) (Deceased)
Killian Swift (aka Gielie) ± 1933
Willie’s children:
Sarah m Wirth/Witt/Wurth/Horn 1950 – Deceased
Killian 1955 – Deceased
(James Hansen’s 2nd wife, Elize’s granny married Willie, she was Hendrieka Sarah Hawkins)
Killian John’s children:
Killian 1940
(somewhere in Strand )
David Andreas (André) (m Carolien) 11/5/1943
Children: Desré vd Merwe ?
Jenny Wallenberg 2/9/1978
James Kirchner Swift (m Anna Gertruida Wilhelmina (Ansie) Smit – 11/10/1969) 11/10/1946
Children: Llewellyn 4/9/1972
Evan 2/11/1976
Alberto 20/2/1984
My Dad THOMAS EDWIN SWIFT’s Children:
OLIVE AMALI TERESA SWIFT (m WILLEM STEPHANUS JOHANNES HUGO) 18/11/1956
Children: Eugene 16/7/1976
Nena 23/11/1984
JULI KüRCHNER SWIFT (m LANCE ROBERTSON) 3/7/1958
Children: Ray 12/5/1981
Zac 11/7/1985
Tim 8/3/1988
ADRIAN KILLIAN GEORGE SWIFT (no children) 3/8/1961 – 22/5/1992
Miemie’s children:
Andreas Hansen (m Johanna (Kleintjie) Ehlers) 12/4/1941 – Jan 1984
Children: Andries Johannes Hansen 1966
Lizette Hansen 24/12/1967
Killian Johannes Hansen 21/2/1973
Adrie Hansen 30/7/1974
Elsie Maria (Ella) (m Thomas Sylvester Peremore) 21/8/1943
Children: Deborah Anne Peremore 5/2/1963
André Killian Peremore 27/8/1965
Walter Thomas Peremore 8/8/1966
Percival James Kirchner Peremore 22/5/1968
Belinda Maria Peremore 23/8/1969
Kathleen Elizabeth Peremore 24/11/1970
Ellie Maria Peremore 21/5/1972
Twins: Killian (m Rosita Sasman “Kleintjie”) 27/5/1947
Children: Beulah 27/9/1973
Andreas 26/11/1975
Twins: Maria Elizabeth (Babsie) 27/5/1947
Children: Yolanda 25/5/1968
Marlize 8/3/1970
Aletta 4/11/1971
(021-5517643)
Albert Swift Hansen
Children: Deon Albert Hansen 13/3/1973 – 1998
Teresa Elizabeth (Tessa) Hansen 14/9/1971
James Kirchner (2nd Wife – Elize)
Children: Ockert 1975
Andreas Johannes 1976
James 1978 – 2004
Eben Francis 1981
James’s children:
Suzette (m Dirk Meerkotter) 25/06/1949
Children: Maryke Meerkotter
Anneke Meerkotter
Dirk Meerkotter
Killian John Swift 28/12/1952
(m Cathy Bissett)
Children: Rudi Hilliary Swift (b Victor - adopted) 10/06/1981
James Kirchner 09/07/1985
Marlene Swift 11/03/1957
(m Gert Tighy)
Children: Brendan Tighy
Melissa Tighy
Megan Tighy
_________________________________________________________________________I hope someone out there will be able to help me with my research - more in particular on which ships did my 2 great grandfathers come and from exactly where did they come?
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