Thursday, 22 September 2011

Kirchner surname

I have just made a discovery - at some point in time - perhaps when the Kirchners fled Germany, they changed their name by dropping the VON in front of Kirchner.  So we were actually Von Kirchner!  What an interesting revelation!

SWIFT COAT OF ARMS

The motto of the Swift Coat of Arms is:  Festina Lente
Translated from Latin it means:  make haste slowly or hurry slowly which is quite funny as swift means quick or fast.  What the motto actually means is:  Do things in the proper way instead of hurriedly or to think first before jumping in without thinking something through!  I'd say this is a very wise motto!  Congratulations to my forefather who came up with this oxymoron as a motto!!!





Anna Margaretha Kirchner (christened 27/9/1846) 4/9/1846 - ±1900

RIGHT MARGIN PROBLEMS

As I am new at this, perhaps someone can tell me why the right margin has been cut off resulting in some dates not showing?

Wednesday, 21 September 2011

SWIFT & KIRCHNER RESEARCH

It seems the most of the dates have been cut off.  I can e-mail the documents to anyone who is interested in this research.

SWIFT AND KIRCHNER RESEARCH

To start of I would like to research both sides of my dad, Thomas Edwin Swift's family and his mother, Maria Elizabeth (aka Isabella) Kirchner's family.    I have traced both great grandfathers to where they entered South Africa,.  However now I am stuck.  I have already done a huge amount of research and sort of written down notes and stories told to me by various family members.

Here is my great grandfather's Family Tree followed by my Grandfather's Family Tree:

MY GRANDFATHER’S FAMILY TREE
Compiled by Juli Kürchner Robertson (born Swift)



                                                                                                                        BIRTH/DEATH DATE

My Great Grandfather:
WILLIAM EDMUND SWIFT                                                                                      1839 - ±1900
Married                                                                                                                                27/12/64
My Great Grandmother
Anna Margaretha Kirchner (christened 27/9/1846)                                     4/9/1846 - ±1900

CHILDREN:

THOMAS EDWIN SWIFT                                                                      29/5/1868 – 8/10/1932
     (m * Cornelia Maria Lourens)                                                                                      ?? - 1900
     (and then Cecilia Petronella Cronje)                                                  10/8/1876 – 9/4/1949
GUILLAUME JOHANNES KIRCHNER SWIFT (My Grandfather)            13/9/1871 – ±1950
      (m Maria Elizabeth Kirchner                                                                    29/4/1876 – ±1948
Anna Maria Margareta Swift                                                                                         28/7/1873
     (m Pieter Jozef Marius (Marcus) Ellis 29/6/1897 Ladismith)                                             
WILHELM JACOBUS SWIFT                                                                   4/12/1875 - ±1930/40
Jacomina Johanna Swift (m George Philippus Bredenhan)

*** THOMAS EDWIN SWIFT AND CECILIA PETRONELLA = MY DAD’S GODPARENTS***

Thomas Edwin’s Children:

* Cornelia Maria “Colly” Swift (m Haasbroek)                                                         2/2/1895 - ?
                           (Children:  Anna Zweig                                                                                           
* (First wife’s child)

William James (Willie) Swift (Wife:  Maria)                                        26/11/1903 – Mar 1966
       Children:      Marius Christo Swift (m Alta Hugo)                                               26/9/1933
                              (Children:  Jimmy Swift m Marion Douglas –
                                             - Children:  Stephanie Swift                                21/02/1986
                                               Hugo Swift m Elizabeth v Rensburg
                                               Marius Swift,
                                            Alta Wessels)
                              Cecilia Jane “Cecily”                                               11/08/1936 – 20/04/1957
                              Wilna Swift (m George Bekker)                                                     24/08/1939
                              (Children, Maryke Swift, Marieken, Melissa)
                              Theunis Hanekom Swift (m Lydia Ehlers)                                    26/05/1944
                              (Children:  Wayne Swift, Charlene Swift)
                              Edwin “Eddie” Thomas Swift
                              (m Marlene Visser)                                                 31/05/1945 – 13/02/2003
                              (Children:  Monja, Shawn, Luan – died 19/05/2004)
                              Laurette Swift (m Dries Erasmus and then
                                  John Jacobsen)                                                                           07/02/1947
                              (Children:  Andre Erasmus, Mariska Erasmus, Lauren Erasmus)
                              (Children:  Jolani Jacobsen)
                              William “Willie” James Swift (m Louise ?)                                  22/07/1948
                              (Children:  William James Swift, Wilmary Swift)                                          
                             
Matthys Johannes Swift (m Alice ?)                                                               1903/5 – 1958/60
         Children:     Thomas James (wife:  Marietjie Potgieter)                         1936 – Dec 1981
                              (Children:  Margaretha Aletta 1959; Ronel Elizabeth 1960; Matthys Johannes 8/7/1961; Thomas James 1963)
                              Jack (2nd Wife:  Annette)                                                              27/12/1942
                              (Children:  James; Catherine; Elisna)
                              Alice (3 daughters)                                                                                      1932

Martina Magdalena “Mattie” (m Piet Lewis)                                          19/6/1907 – 10/9/1985

Thomas Edwin Swift (m Elise ? - divorced) (b Ladismith 3/10/1909)                   21/08/1909
         Children:     Elise Swift
                          Cecilia Swift

Anna Maria Margaretha Swift (married Japie Le Roux)                                             3/11/1911
         Children:     JP (Japie) le Roux                                                                                        1934
                              Engelbert Lens le Roux                                                                                 1935
                              Thomas Edwin Swift le Roux                                                                       1936
                              Jacob Pieter Jordaan le Roux                                                                    1937
                              Cecil Cronjé le Roux                                                                                      1938
                              Anna Johanna le Roux
                              Cecilia Petronella le Roux
                              Abraham Joshua le Roux

Cecilia Petronella                                                                                  “Poppie” (m Danie le Roux)         ??

Petrus Johannes “Pietie” Swift (no children)                                        16/8/1915 – 26/3/1932

Anna Maria Margareta Swift’s Children:

Thomas Ellis                                                                                                            about 1910/1915

Guillaume Johannes Kirchner Swift’s Children:

Susanna Elizabeth (m Jacobus Johannes Jordaan                            11/11/1898 – 20/11/1979
                               and then Philippus Johannes “Flip” Veldtsman)
Anna Magrieta/Margareta (m Andries Petrus de Villiers)              12/01/1902 – 18/02/1978
Willie (?William?) Jacobus/Gideon (m Hendrieka Sarah Hawkins)    18/6/1904 - ± 1958/60
Johannes Aloisius (Never married – no children)                                10/11/1906 – 15/3/1984
Killian Johannes/John (m Suzie de Bod)                                            15/10/1909 - March 1969
Thomas Edwin Swift (m Saraii Dorothy Baines born Mallinson and
    later Anna Elizabeth Petersen formerly Retief born Victor)    24/12/1913 – 17/04/1979
Twins: {James (m Maria Magdalena (Miemie) Janse van Rensburg)            20/4/1917 – 10/12/1967
{Maria Elizabeth (Miemie)                                                                              20/4/1917 - ± 1996
(m Andreas Albert Hansen 1/1/1936)                                                                           18/3/1896
***SEE REST OF SWIFT FAMILY TREE****

Wilhelm (William) Jacobus Swift’s Children:

William Edward (Eduard) (b Ladismith 15/12/1899)                                                    1/5/1899
Johanna Maria (b Ladismith 28/11/1902)                                                                      1/9/1902
 (My grandpa and grandma were witnesses at christening)
Thomas Edward (Eduard) (b Ladismith 25/12/1906)                                                 8/11/1906

   
SWIFT FAMILY HISTORY
Compiled by Juli Kürchner Robertson (born Swift)


                                                                                                                        BIRTH/DEATH DATE

Grandfather:  GUILLAUM JOHANNES KIRCHNER SWIFT           30/9/1871 – about 1950
Baptised: 3/12/1871 Ladismith
(There are also many variations in spelling – GUILLAUME is French for WILLIAM!!

Grandmother:   MARIA ELIZABETH KIRCHNER                                           29/4/1876 – 1947
(It seems she was baptized on 29/1/1877 in Ladismith as MARIA ISABELLA KIRCHNER)
Date of Marriage:  22 April 1897


My father’s Siblings:

Susanna Elizabeth (m Jacobus Johannes Jordaan                            11/11/1898 – 20/11/1979
                               and in 1960 Philippus Johannes “Flip” Veldtsman)
Anna Magrieta/Margareta (m Andries Petrus de Villiers)              12/01/1902 – 18/02/1978
Willie (?William?) Jacobus/Gideon (m Hendrieka Sarah Hawkins)    18/6/1904 - ± 1958/60
Johannes Aloisius (Never married – no children)                                10/11/1906 – 15/3/1984
Killian Johannes/John (m Suzie de Bod)                                            15/10/1909 - March 1969
My dad: Thomas Edwin Swift (m Saraii Dorothy Baines born Mallinson and
    later Anna Elizabeth Petersen formerly Retief born Victor)    24/12/1913 – 17/04/1979
Twins: {James (m Maria Magdalena (Miemie) Janse van Rensburg)            20/4/191710/12/1967
{Maria Elizabeth (Miemie)                                                                              20/4/1917 - ± 1996
(m Andreas Albert Hansen 1/1/1936)                                                                           18/3/1896


Susanna’s children:
Maria Elizabeth (Miemie) (m Joubert)                                                                            9/4/1919
Children:  Pieter Joubert (m Antoinette)                                                                            ± 1943
Louis Johannes Jordaan                                                                                                        ± 1923
Susanna (Suzie) Elizabeth Jordaan (m Isaac le Grange d 1979)
                           (2nd m  Niemand)                                                                                   17/6/1933
Children:           Josef Michiel le Grange                                                                                  1951
                           Jacobus Johannes le Grange                                                                          1953
                           Isaac Barthlomeus le Grange                                                                         1955
                           Killian Johannes le Grange                                                                              1959
                           Susanna Aletta le Grange (m Frederick Venter)                                2/5/1965
                           Peter Johannes Niemand                                                                    1971 – 1995
                           Lente Niemand (m Andrew Robert Harris)                                                  1973
Christina (Stienie) Johanna (m 1st du Bois, 2ndSouthey)                                          26/8/1928
Children:           Antoinette (m van Rooyen)                                                                  27/4/1955
                           Chris du Bois                                                                                  1/11/58 – 2000
                           Pierre du Bois
                           Twins:  Elizabeth (m Janse v Rensburg)
                                        Arthur du Bois
                           Jean du Bois
Killian Johannes                                                                                                                  Deceased
Jakobus Jordaan
Rosina  (Rosie) Johanna Magharetha                                                                            13/8/1939
(m Hermanus Stephanus “Faan” Engelbrecht – 3/2/1967) (No children)
Anna Jordaan (m van der Poel - 1962)                                                                           7/9/1944
Children:           Susanna (Sanette) Elizabeth vd Poel                                                 20/7/1963
                           Jacobus Johannes (Johan) vd Poel                                                  22/12/1967
                           Anna Francina                                                                                       10/10/1970
                           Heinrich                                                                                                 16/10/1978

Anna’s children:
Maria Elizabeth (Bessie) (m Harry Kaden)                                                                  (Deceased)
Children:           Patricia (m Visser)                                                                                        ± 1949
                           Michael Kaden                                                                                               ± 1953
Hendrik (Hennie) Pieter Johan de Villiers                                              25/2/1927 – Deceased
(m Sophia Elizabeth Malherbe - 11/12/1956)                                        19/11/1933 - Deceased        
 Children:          Anita Elizabeth (m Carlos Gysbertus Villavicencio 13/11/1976)    27/9/1957
                           (No children)
                           Ivan Pieter de Villiers (m 2nd xSusarah Volschenk ± 1986)            11/11/1958
                           Children:  Adrie Marie (1st marriage)                                                         ±1981
                           John Malherbe de Villiers (m Lizette de Villiers now divorced)    22/6/1960
                           Children:  Anton de Villiers
                           Rudolph Boudewijn de Villiers                                                            22/10/1965
                           Hendrik (Hennie) Pieter Johan de Villiers                                        18/9/1966
                           Children:  Carissa                                                                                          ± 1995
                                           Jean Pierre                                                                                ± 1998                    
Deborah Johanna Jakoba (Debbie) (married:  Ralph)                                              (Deceased)
Killian Swift (aka Gielie)                                                                                                         ± 1933

Willie’s children:                                    
Sarah m Wirth/Witt/Wurth/Horn                                                                    1950 – Deceased
Killian                                                                                                                        1955 – Deceased
(James Hansen’s 2nd wife, Elize’s granny married Willie, she was Hendrieka Sarah Hawkins)

Killian John’s children:                          
Killian                                                                                                                                            1940
(somewhere in Strand)
David Andreas (André) (m Carolien)                                                                              11/5/1943
Children:           Desré vd Merwe                                                                                                      ?
                           Nancy (single)                                                                                        15/3/1974
                           Jenny Wallenberg                                                                                   2/9/1978
James Kirchner Swift (m Anna Gertruida Wilhelmina (Ansie) Smit – 11/10/1969) 11/10/1946
Children:           Llewellyn                                                                                                    4/9/1972
                           Evan                                                                                                          2/11/1976
                           Alberto                                                                                                   20/2/1984
                                                                 
My Dad THOMAS EDWIN SWIFT’s Children:

OLIVE AMALI TERESA SWIFT (m WILLEM STEPHANUS JOHANNES HUGO) 18/11/1956
Children:           Eugene                                                                                                     16/7/1976  
                           Nena                                                                                                       23/11/1984
JULI KüRCHNER SWIFT (m LANCE ROBERTSON)                                                     3/7/1958
Children:           Ray                                                                                                            12/5/1981
                           Zac                                                                                                           11/7/1985 
                           Tim                                                                                                            8/3/1988
ADRIAN KILLIAN GEORGE SWIFT (no children)                                3/8/1961 – 22/5/1992


Miemie’s children:                                  
Andreas Hansen (m Johanna (Kleintjie) Ehlers)                                      12/4/1941 – Jan 1984
Children:           Andries Johannes Hansen                                                                              1966
                        Lizette Hansen                                                                                     24/12/1967
                           Killian Johannes Hansen                                                                       21/2/1973
                           Adrie Hansen                                                                                         30/7/1974
Elsie Maria (Ella) (m Thomas Sylvester Peremore)                                                     21/8/1943
Children:           Deborah Anne Peremore                                                                        5/2/1963
                           André Killian Peremore                                                                         27/8/1965
                           Walter Thomas Peremore                                                                      8/8/1966
                           Percival James Kirchner Peremore                                                     22/5/1968
                           Belinda Maria Peremore                                                                       23/8/1969
                           Kathleen Elizabeth Peremore                                                             24/11/1970
                           Ellie Maria Peremore                                                                             21/5/1972
Twins:  Killian (m Rosita Sasman “Kleintjie”)                                                               27/5/1947
Children:           Beulah                                                                                                     27/9/1973        
                           Andreas                                                                                                  26/11/1975
Twins:  Maria Elizabeth (Babsie)                                                                                   27/5/1947
Children:           Yolanda                                                                                                    25/5/1968
                          Marlize                                                                                                      8/3/1970
                           Aletta                                                                                                       4/11/1971        
                           (021-5517643) 
Albert Swift Hansen
Children:           Deon Albert Hansen                                                                  13/3/1973 – 1998
                           Teresa Elizabeth (Tessa) Hansen                                                        14/9/1971
James Kirchner (2nd Wife – Elize)
Children:           Ockert                                                                                                               1975
                           Andreas Johannes                                                                                            1976
                           James                                                                                                   1978 – 2004        
                           Eben Francis                                                                                                     1981

James’s children:                                   
Suzette (m Dirk Meerkotter)                                                                                     25/06/1949
Children:           Maryke Meerkotter
                           Anneke Meerkotter
                           Dirk Meerkotter         
Killian John Swift                                                                                                           28/12/1952
                           (m Cathy Bissett)
Children:           Rudi Hilliary Swift (b Victor - adopted)                                          10/06/1981
                         James Kirchner                                                                               09/07/1985
Marlene Swift                                                                                                                11/03/1957
(m Gert Tighy)                                                                                                                                    
Children:           Brendan Tighy
                           Melissa Tighy
                           Megan Tighy
_________________________________________________________________________

I hope someone out there will be able to help me with my research - more in particular on which ships did my 2 great grandfathers come and from exactly where did they come?